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Robin Wren's avatar

People who think an actual writer would write a book using AI, or people who think about writing their first book using AI... I believe, all of them just have this incredibly wrong notion that it's IDEAS that matter, and not the execution. That the ideas are the art, not the actual doing (painting, writing, you name it).

"I have so many good ideas, but I don't really know how to write/paint that well..."

I am so bemused by such statements.

Mate, the ideas were never the problem. The magic lies in the process, in the doing.

Trying to merge your crafting abilities with that image/feeling in your head - that's what being an artist is all about (or, you know, the commonly shared anguish about this gap being unbridgeable...)

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Annie's avatar

100% copyright work should be protected.

I don't know that not using "AI" is an effective step, or even possible. We've stepped on copyright so frivolously to this point I think we hardly notice anymore.

For me it was Pinterest. A vast array of images, photographs, art with no attribution, no link back to the creator. Use images however, wherever you want with no regard for copyright. I honestly sent dozens of message reporting pins, "No link to the creator." "Some random person is using this image to promote their business or their..." The response was honestly along the lines of, "We don't really care about the creator or copyright." Everyone loved Pinterest and didn't think about how those images came into existence.

Now we've integrated different versions of AI so quickly into so many services, I don't know that we can stop using it (without becoming hobbits).

- I don't know a lot about the technology behind LLM but logically, predictive text probably leverages an LLM. I honestly don't know if that's fed from the browser or the website or if there's a central api they all tap into but almost every website I go to suggests what I should type next.

- I can (and do) turn predictive text off in Word because it's annoying. But Microsoft profits aren't more or less because I'm not using predictive test.

- I also use DuckDuckGo and it's started to give me predictive answers to search questions.

- Canva offers MagicWrite that offers to "help write copy and brainstorm ideas."

- Since Meta is the one stealing work to support their LLM, I imagine that's filtering into Facebook in some way.

- Grammarly, I would imagine though haven't researched, could have had the rules of grammar programmed in. But we don't know if it was trained solely on work people submitted to the site for review or from other sources. And did the people who submitted text for Grammarly to review know that their words would be used to train service? (I imagine there was a footnote somewhere.)

- Substack has AI to allow me to generate an image for my post.

Not all versions of AI are an LLM but it seems everyone wants an algorithm to automate some part of a process for them.

I would very much like to see the DOJ crack down on pirate sites, period. Copyright work should be protected.

I would also like to see copyright enforced in regard to training any AI model. I think big companies would still try to get around it. But one judgement that AI models have to respect copyright sets a precedent that makes it easier for artists to pursue justice in protecting their work.

And I'd actually like to see a company create AI that respects copyright (I did see Tess in the below comments). I think we'd be surprised how many people would be willing to allow their work to train AI if they're fairly compensated (and who knows what "fair" is in the wild west).

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